Q text not saved in csv if figure is inserted at the beginning

John.T.26
John.T.26 Posts: 28 🌱

If a figure is inserted before question text, then in the csv of the quiz data, the Q text field is blank. Now that I know this, I can put text in front of the figure to make sure this doesn't happen and I can identify these questions in the downloaded test data. But it seems like this problem could be easily fixed.

Also, question text edits don't back-update into the data from previous tests. (For example, if I run a quiz in which two questions having identical text are drawn randomly from a pool and I later insert question-specific codes into the text so they can be identified.) I can see where we might not want to do this if we want the data to indicate exactly what the student saw. But the option should be there. Now that I know this, of course I insert invisible question codes into each question.

I shouldn't have to do these workarounds because the LMS should be able to provide unique identifiers for questions in the downloaded data even if question text is identical and questions are drawn randomly from a pool. In the report within Brightspace, it has the aggregate data for each question, but if we are going to analyze individual student performance, we need the information in the downloaded data as well.

Answers

  • Hi John

    Please submit the issue of question text not being retained when saving a Question to helpdesk@d2l.com so that it can be properly tracked and resolved. This sounds like a software bug.

    The 2nd matter you mentioned is expected behavior indeed. Once a quiz has been attempted, it's locked at that quiz version (or "Collection" version number in the DB) and any attempts following a change to the quiz will be associated to the new version number.

    In fact questions have id numbers and version numbers. On top of that, quizzes (or question collections) have their own id numbers and version numbers to track how they're being shared from one course to another and independently altered over time.

    I hope that's helpful.

    Best regards
    Matt
    Learning Administration Manager

  • John.T.26
    John.T.26 Posts: 28 🌱

    Actually, the text is there. What it does is in the place of the graphic, it puts a whole bunch of spaces so in Excel it looks like a blank field. Sorry to raise an alarm. No bug, just a weird insertion of spaces.